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Poster: gratefuldiver Date: Feb 7, 2012 5:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Song is a Surprise in Your Top 25?

Respectfully, for without exception, you all are amongst the most highly regarded members of this forum and, if I may speak for at least a portion of the 'lurkers' and infrequent 'posters', your contributions to this forum are incredibly valued. I cannot convey how much I've learned simply from reading your posts and minimizing my comments. However, this series of posts seems to be an apples and orange conversation (and I obviously have too much time on my hands this morning): 4 out of 25 favorites are Phil & Friends? #1 from a Steely Dan studio album? 3 version of BIODTL? (No judgement here; just observation of how divergent the responses are.) If I may suggest a simpler question, what are among your top 25 favorite (or most played) songs that have absolutely nothing to do with the Grateful Dead (e.g.., no Bob Dylan songs that JGB covered, no Phil & Friends version of Scarlet Begonias, no favorite versions of The Eleven--which is personally difficult for me to not choose). I'll offer up five songs to perhaps get some reaction (and will avoid artists such as John Coltrane or Edith Piaf who would take this in a completely different direction): Rolling Stones Moonlight Mile, Joni Mitchell River, Counting Crows Anna Begins, The Verve The Rolling People, and (total cop-out) Radiohead OK Computer just because it's (IMHO) the best album since (and perhaps including since it's not a "4-side" album) Exile on Main Street or The White Album...but I'll take No Surprises if I must only choose one. I guess the most interesting fact from this exercise is, though I listen to recordings of GD concerts 95% of the time, when I'm not listening to a live GD show, my preference is for studio recordings, frequently with highly engineered, multilayer tracks...the exact opposite of what I love about even an average Charlie Miller SBD of a GD concert complete with AUD patches and a lousy mix during the first few songs until whoever is working the soundboard gets everyone's mikes dialed in.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 7, 2012 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Song is a Surprise in Your Top 25?

Thanks gd. AR is correct in that for itunes users it's just a pre-installed folder that adds up the number of complete plays over time. It is extremely inaccurate of overall music listened to. For example, it does not count most things on LMA (some stuff dl though). It does not count my youtube channel. I never paid any mind to the folder until I had a 'what the hay' click yesterday. I still can't get how or why Becker & Fagen get the gold ribbon. They have two other songs in the top 25 so it's not a fluke.

It's an interesting juxtaposition you have with the live GD versus highly polished studio work. The fact that there are folks who would listen to an AUD or an iffy recording by GD while they never would tolerate that quality of sound by other musician(s) speaks volumes about GD. I mean I've been waiting for a long time to hear the S/F from Barcelona '81 and I would go pretty low in quality to give it a listen.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 7, 2012 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Song is a Surprise in Your Top 25?

Grateful, I took the question to be about that little tab on the iTunes sidebar that says "Top 25 Most Played." If you click it and check the stats, they can be pretty funny. Doesn't necessarily indicate intentional "favorites;" just says what you've hit "play" on a lot.

(In theory, someone could listen to 99 percent GD and have only one other album loaded onto iTunes, but break their GD listening up among a gazillion shows and listen to that one album once a month; songs on that one album could then end up as "most played.")

As for non-GD "favorite songs ever" ... yikes, that would require actual thought :-)